Sharia & Islamopolitics

Sharia & Islamopolitics.

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  1. “Who was dead on the Cross DC?YHWH(So God died)?
    Was it someone else(heresy of nestorianism)? Or just impersonal flesh that stopped biologically functioning for your sins? Thanks.”

    COMPLETE god did not get murdered/sacrificed.

  2. hello semsav12,

    i have been doing a bit of analysis on christian creed and i thought i show you my latest thinking on thier religion.maybe you can add your own information?

    quote:

    According to the pauline polythiests doing good , praying and repentance cannot earn gods pleasure. thier pagan god is appeased when he becomes finite and does deeds in the flesh to himself.

    Ofcourse, before there was incarnation, the pauline god made DAMN sure that his abilities to have carnal desires were switched off and the link cut off. Thier god has to make sure that he doesn’t get infected with disease otherwise the murder/”sacrifice” would not be approved according to the laws about animal sacrifices in the torah. The animal had to be healthy and free of disease.

    Their god is doing action verbs and trying to become a slave of his own laws which he had given to the jews. If God is the ALL powerfull OMNI everything being and you believe that, then according to christians what you believe is not enough for the pauline god. The pauline god NEEDS you to believe in his FINITE actions to himself.the pauline god must have something in the middle between him and the human. What is it? It is the violent murder of his flesh. God poured (not complete god.) his wrath/divine justice/divine punishment on his CREATED flesh and blood . god did this so he can save people from his own divine justice/punishment. Nothing can appease/please/cool off god except his finite deeds/WORKS/actions he did to himself(not to all of himself/complete SELF/100 % SELF because complete god did NOT incarnate, the 2 “he’s” in the trinity remained in their omni everything powers). If you believe that god is ALMIGHTY and omni everything and THE ULTIMATE being, then according to the paulines, “not enough, you need gods created blood (not complete god, because the “he are 3 “ worshippers believe only 1 person incarnated). No human knows how finite sins make an infinite omni everything god HELPLESS. It is a mystery. In christianity, humans are “worthless piece of sh!!” even before and after the murder of thier god.they need the man god murder to LIFT their hopes up.

    So there is NOTHING you can do to please god , but at the same time there is SOMETHING you can do and that is to accept that part of god/his lesser CREATED part got squashed by other part of god . so infinite being with DIVINE justice squashes created finite being who is at the same time infinite. God the father throws BOILING water /divine punishment ON THE son and then turns his face away when he is forsaking the son. god is abusing god or his lesser part/2 he’s in the trinity firing on 1 he from the trinity.

    Many religious people have argued from different religions that god has placed the “god spark” in thier hearts and that the “god spark” helps them to self purify and walk the straight path with the help of God. So the “god spark” will work when they are alone and no one sees them, except God. If they are tempted to sin, they would know within thier hearts that God observes everything.

    Humble people say that even if they were free of sin and as innocent as a baby pigeon and that thier good deeds REACHED the sky, their innocent DEEDS would still not be GREATER than the GIFTS God gave to mankind such as sight and hearing. SO God would be seen as the GREATEST no matter how much good deeds a sinless person did. It is with this ATTITUDE one should earn the pleasure of THE almighty.

    But the trinitarians once again say that thier “god spark” is the FINITE god who required that his FLESH violently got OPENED and made sure his blood poured out. Brutal violence was a MAJOR ingredient. Through VIOLENT weather conditions god violently destroyed the people of sodom and noah , i guess he wanted a taste of his own medicine.

    Isn’t it funny that christians say that nothing can earn gods pleasure yet in thier sinful state they try to use thier abilities to try thier best to follow thier man god and the previous prophets? So deep down, they aknowledge that thier must be room in thier gods heart for accepting doing good.

    Look at thier sick and disgusting cult, if they were to watch jesus get violently murdered, they would cry to be seen by men , but deep down inside, they would feel joy because thier flesh would not get squashed but thier gods finite created flesh got squashed to death. “make him bleed, we need salvation” “cut open the flesh, without blood thier is no forgiveness” “ violent pain/suffering is needed, i am glad it wasn’t my flesh” “ we need this so then we can believe and enjoy the fruits of heaven” “ doesn’t matter how much i try to follow jebus, i am wrectched and dirty human full of sin, make jesus bleed, cut open his flesh, smash his face in, we need blood “

    believe = verb and people USE ACTION TO DO THE VERB. Without ACTIONS/ WORKS people would be DEAD.do christians never have DOUBTS? DO they ALWAYS trust god when the going gets tough? So if beliefs can be TAINTED with sin and christian says that his human nature is tainted with sin, then really, the christian admits that both DEEDS and belief DOES not earn gods pleasure. So christian is a DIRTY filthy scum in thier gods eyes.

    remember, if it weren’t for god pouring his wrath unto his lesser self, christian would be seen as worthless piece of sh££”

    “I believe you don’t have the blood of Jesus covering you, I do and I am glad Jesus died and rose. It pleased God to bruise Jesus for us. It is a very good thing.”

    so how are you having a relationship with your god? indirectly through violent sacrifice? how would you feel if your father called you a worthless piece of £££$ and said that the only way to reconcile you with him was for you to drench your self in blood and wear a small crucifix? imagine how this world would be like if parents had relationship with thier children via intermediary and parent considered all the works of their children worthless piece of crap.imagine you sinned against your father and he said to you , ” out of my sight worthless piece of sh it, your guilt and plee mean jack to me, i want the guilt and plee of innocent”
    the whole idea of relationship and kindness becomes meaningless.

    • Thanks for the information Mansub, the trinity is a strange thing because so many christians talk about the trinity as a composition(such as Dr.Brown the messianic apologist) but this in fact is a heresy called partialism! Heck, there is another heresy called nestorianism which states that there is two persons of Jesus, many trinitarians speak of Jesus as two persons when they say something to the effect of “the Man Jesus knew this” and “the God jesus knew that” because natures don’t know, but persons do. Many trinitarians are unknowingly heretics!

      • i always think of the verse which says that jesus HAD TO walk to a tree to FIND figs on it. DOES this mean that the SOUL in jesus LACKED knowledge about what was on a fig tree located @ a distance? when jesus DIDN’T KNOW, does that mean that his IGNORANCE WAS CREATED? if yes, then was there a soul in jesus which was IGNORANT? everything they are switching their on/off. the IGNORANT jesus MUST have been SOMETHING other than the trinitarian BECAUSE christians all agree that iGNORANCE IS SOMETHING WHICH IS CREATED.

  3. “hey Samuel, could you help me out, Did Jesus being Fully God of Fully God have wrath he needed to appease, since according to christian doctrine, he is Holy and must punish those who transgress against him?
    Did Jesus then unleash his Wrath onto himself? In other words, did he punish himself?”

    this is common sense. god (NOT COMPLETE god/not 100% god) wants to USE DIVINE justice/punishment in the hell. “the soul and flesh is DESTROYED in the fires of hell”, said jesus. so god the father along with the spirit fired on lesser part of god the son. THE romans are FINITE, god is not. the romans punishment is FINITE, god’s isn’t. so it is LOGICAL to claim that the 2 he’s in trinity FIRED divine PUNISHMENT on the 1 he from trinity. god cannot SHARE his divine punishment with the romans otherwise they would become EXTRA persons in trinity when god was firing his wrath unto the son. and the christian WILL TELL YOU AGAIN AND AGAIN that DIVINE justice CANNOT come from man so logically god FIRED on god/lesser part/ LESS than 100%

    • Well logically it seems for the God the son to be “fully God of Fully God” he would be “holy”, which in christian theology means he needs to appease his wrath in order to forgive, would have to punish himself during the sacrifice to appease his wrath. Another thing interesting to note, is that Jesus is basically some sort of flesh puppet on earth because it is heresy to say that there are two different persons in Jesus. So since Jesus in christian theology would be omnipresent, and not stop being omni present during the incarnation according to most dual nature theories, the Jesus walking about in Isreal 2000 years ago, was basically some sort of puppet of human biology.

      Basically, Jesus to appease his own wrath punished himself, by punishing a puppet composed of human biology. Hallujah.

      • semsave, LETS LOOK at these two verses

        Gal 2:21, if righteousness is in the law christ died for nothing.

        Gal 3:13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law.

        HOW can christians , with a straight face, denie that there weren’t variant christianities in pauls time? there is a community of christians which believed that RIGHTEOUSNESS was in the law and that the law wasn’t a curse. why RIGHT letters if everything was hunky dory and DIVISION free?

      • i don’t know if you know this but in the ot there are verses which say that yhwh is appeased when he smokes/inhales burning blood and flesh. what is interesting is that jesus’ blood wasn’t the ONLY blood which appeased yhwh. we know, according to the ot, that SINNERS blood and righteous servants who were unjustly murdered appeased yhwh.

        i quote:
        But this Semitic Warrior-King deity of the Israelite army doesn’t act out of loyalty or love, but demands and expects a high price: All the booty of the city from the death of all living things to its gold, silver, bronze and iron as his portion of the “harem” or the BAN.

        “They utterly destroyed everything in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox and sheep and donkey, with the edge of the sword…They burned the city with fire, and all that was in it. Only the silver and gold, and articles of bronze and iron, they put into the treasury of the house of the LORD. (Joshua 6: 21 & 24)

        {Word study: שָׂרַף as used in this context is associated with בָּאֵשׁ as the text reads “שָׂרַף בָּאֵשׁ” or “to burn with fire”. This is a cognate of the Akkadian ina isati sarapu “to destroy by fire” as in relation to burning figurines in magic rituals.

        The word שָׂרַף as used in this study is associated in the Priestly work of Leviticus in the burning of animal sacrifices (see also Numbers 17:4, Judges 7: 31, 19: 5 and 2 Kings 17:31). (Note 4) However, most importantly, פרש is used in the Hebrew Bible in the context of children burnt to the gods: Duet. 12: 31, Jeremiah 7: 31, 19: 5, and 2 Kings 17: 31. (Note 5)

        Thus all life – both human and animal – of the city of Jericho, is ritualistically slaughtered and only then can Yahweh feast on the smoke from the blood and bodies of the victims as the city is “שָׂרַף בָּאֵש” or burnt with fire.}

        Thought the cultic magical elements flow full and free in Joshua 6 – 7, the victory is short lived due to hidden sin! Unknown to Joshua, Yahweh was denied his full booty. Not the precious lives of the non-combatant being all the innocent women, children, babies, the unborn and animals (which Christians tell us God really loves), but Yahweh’s personal lust is for the material metal wealth which includes everything from the gold, silver to the bronze and iron that could be used in his earthly house / tabernacle.

        ….

        Once the murder of all life in Jericho completed, everything is then burnt to Yahweh so that he can enjoy the smell of the human sacrificial spoils of war. (Notice that the cultic proper killing of life of both humans and animal in Jericho means that their blood must be drained. Thus in Joshua 6: 21 author is sure to make it a point to tell the Jewish reader of this epic that death was to be by “the edge of the sword” before the ritual / sacrificial burning (Joshua 6: 24) could begin!)

        Finally, the future fate of the city is sealed with divine curse placed on anyone who tries to rebuild it: “Then Joshua made them take an oath at that time, saying, “Cursed before the LORD is the man who rises up and builds this city Jericho; with the loss of his firstborn he shall lay its foundation, and with the loss of his youngest son he shall set up its gates.” (Joshua 6:26). (Here the curse is much like one would find in such major ancient Near Eastern Akkadian texts such as the epilogue to the Code of Hammurabi. Thus, Yahweh’s curse in verse 26 has set the stage for the slaughter of Achan and all that belonged to him.

        Since Yahweh was denied his main lust of gold and silver, this Warrior God will take his vengeance on the 3,000 Israelites by not marching as Israel’s Divine Warrior – King into Holy War against Ai:

        “So about three thousand men from the people went up there, but they fled from the men of Ai. The men of Ai struck down about thirty-six of their men, and pursued them from the gate as far as Shebarim and struck them down on the descent, so the hearts of the people melted and became as water.” (Joshua 7: 4-5)

        The reason revealed to Joshua is that “Israel has sinned” by taking Yahweh’s blood money or the gold and silver the city was slaughter for: “Israel has sinned, and they have also transgressed My covenant which I commanded them. And they have even taken some of the things under the ban and have both stolen and deceived. Moreover, they have also put them among their own things.” (Joshua 7: 11) Thus, all of Israel must consecrate themselves to be made holy (as in a divine ritual for Holy Warriors and priests: “ ‘It shall be that the one who is taken with the things under the ban (harem) shall be burned with fire, he and all that belongs to him, because he has transgressed the covenant of the LORD, and because he has committed a disgraceful thing in Israel.'” (Joshua 7: 15).

        Since Yahweh was indeed cheated out of his gold and silver, human bodies must now sacrificially be feed to God to quench his hunger for blood and life: “Joshua said, “Why have you troubled us? The LORD will trouble you this day.” And all Israel stoned them with stones; and they burned them with fire after they had stoned them with stones.” (Joshua 7: 25)

        A usually in this epic cycle, the slaughter of men, women, children, babies along with even the unborn are sacrificed as an atonement for the original material wealth of gold and silver God was denied. As such, Achan’s whole extended family is sacrificed by stoning (death caused by blunt force trauma associated with both bleeding) then – just like Jericho – the slaughtered families are sacrificed with fire to Yahweh so God can feed on their burning bodies by way of the the fire and smoke.

      • it is strange that a god preplans his own CONTROLLED flesh execution and then REWARDS himself with his own rewards. christians USE the CONTROLLED execution as a LINK between themselves and thier god. imagine having a RELATIONSHIP with your children THROUGH a barrier. you on one side of the wall and your children on the other. this is what christians look forward to in thier relationship with their god. the barrier is the murdered flesh of jesus and his flesh /blood is rubbed in the face of the father. christians have a relationship with thier god via a violent murder of jesus. everytime you SEE a cross WHAT DO YOU see? you see a DEAD body hanging off it and jews would have seen hundreds of thier relatives dead body hanging off crosses. christianity does not have relationship with the DIVINE being , but A LESSER version which was a CREATED being .

  4. mistake. there is no edit button. “this is common sense. god (NOT COMPLETE god/not 100% god) wants to USE DIVINE justice/punishment in the hell. ”

    i meant to say COMPLETE god WANTS TO use PUNISHMENT IN….

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